Wednesday, March 21, 2007

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yosh12
03-20-2007, 01:59 PM
Hi everyone..

I don't know if you heard but Madonna 31 got banned off of this board. I thought I would bring it to everyones attention as it is not fair as far as I can see. I will not put the reason from banning but I feel that she has done nothing wrong and that she deserves to be back on.

She has helped alot of us with questions and such. And what she did for the kids at Sick Kids Hospital was amazing and spearheaded alot through this board.

I think it is wrong and should be rectified.

:eek:

cabmom
03-20-2007, 02:21 PM
Wow! Had no idea!

Belle1997
03-20-2007, 02:31 PM
Is it a permanent ban or just a little ban. Since it really is not our busy why the mods banned her. It is hard to say anything. I guess it has to do with the new point system.

maryliz
03-20-2007, 04:10 PM
What new point system???? :confused3

I've never seen anything from Madonna's posts except incredibly helpful information. I hope that whatever happened can be sorted out and get her back on here. We would all miss her valuable input.

Philadelphiafan
03-20-2007, 04:50 PM
I do not know the reason for anyone being banned but I feel some of the mods get too involved when something does not agree with the way they think or feel!

wee-haggis
03-20-2007, 05:27 PM
Its hard to pass an opinion until we actually know why she was banned in the first place.
Can' anyone enlighten us ?

yosh12
03-20-2007, 05:58 PM
She is banned because of her job. If you look who the board is owned by it is Dreams Unlimited. They have banned her because she is a travel agent who deals with booking Disney trips. (Now I will likely get banned for saying this) LOL....:rotfl: Oh well so be it......I just think that people should know what is going on and why she is not on the board.

wee-haggis
03-20-2007, 06:01 PM
She is banned because of her job. If you look who the board is owned by it is Dreams Unlimited. They have banned her because she is a travel agent who deals with booking Disney trips. (Now I will likely get banned for saying this) LOL....:rotfl: Oh well so be it......I just think that people should know what is going on and why she is not on the board.

Did she actually use the boards to sell her services?...
If so I guess I can see their point.
If,however...she simply gave out free advice (as opposed to promoting her own business)then that should be OK.

yosh12
03-20-2007, 06:10 PM
To my knowledge she never promoted herself publically on the board.

sean-1966
03-20-2007, 06:18 PM
Not cool. Madonna does a lot of good with the kids. I saw no mention of her business on here. Repent moderators!!

F4disneyfan
03-20-2007, 06:29 PM
I have seen people banned for less around here that is for sure they ban people for having a different opinion than theirs from what I have witnessed around this place. well not so much on the CDN board but certainly the DVC board and community board.

Claud26
03-20-2007, 06:42 PM
:sad2: Shame on you DisBoards.

She was always so helpfull and willing to give advise.
I think that is just wrong... I've seen other post of people that are TA's on here.:sad2:

Debbie
03-20-2007, 09:35 PM
What a shame. :sad2: Madonna never promoted herself. We knew that she is a TA, and if someone chose to have her help them out, it was through PM's and emails. All politely respectful of the site, and the sponsors. Maybe it was all of the "recommendations" from her clients that wasn't cool. :confused3 Any time that the "Who do you use" question comes up, a few online TA's names come out as recommendations...including Dreams AND our own Canadian agents. Let's face it....as Canadians we DO have needs/issues that those in the States don't have, and it is nice to be able to bounce things off of one another.

SandraC
03-20-2007, 09:39 PM
Does anyone have her tele# for my next Disney trip? Thanks! Sandra

tone.def
03-21-2007, 12:08 AM
I once got a PM from a mod telling me that I would be banned from the boards if I talked about the TA I use again because mentioning them is banned - I had posted a link, didn't know it was a no-no at the time.

The DIS is really starting to gain a bad reputation around the Disney fan community. I'm really glad there are other discussion boards to frequent and post without fear of censorship with users who are just as helpful and more!

dolcezena
03-21-2007, 01:01 AM
whoa! so not right! she helped me out with "Canadian-specific" questions I had, in PM's. She told me she was a TA & I could have chosen not to speak with her! Isn't one of the points of these boards to find answers? Too many questions I had couldn't be answered by others not from here, or without the experience in planning a DW trip!

EnnEss
03-21-2007, 05:25 AM
I had no experience with her, but I know this site seems a little harsh regarding speaking about other sites and businesses. Sponsors are sponsors and obviously this site needs people to be paid to moderate it or host it, but if the sponsors aren't directly called out for being awful than it should be ok.

I tried to use a TA i found on here once, they couldn't book a flight for me from Canada, which is just ridiculous. I can book flights out of America from Canada, so I find it hard to believe that they actually could not because of any other reason other than they would not or there company failed to equip them with the tools that are required to do such a thing. Canadians can actually book flights from American companies directly, so that just really puzzled me. Sharing this type of information or sharing information regarding TAs we can actually use shouldn't be bannable.

Despite all this, I don't want to attack the mods in any way. It is possible something else was going on and no one knew about. I have been solicited after posting about not knowing which resort to choose for an upcoming trip that I already had plane tix for. A TA member sent a msg offering to help, but it could have been a solicitation. I didn't find it offensive in any way and may have given them a shot at a quote had I not been dealing with my corporate HQ for a disc rate. This is a blurry line I guess.

I think the mods should stay out unless there is a complaint though bottom line. Maybe there was though, maybe there was more than one. If there wasn't, and she sounds as if she helped many of you, it is sad to see a valuable member of the community gone.

eleanor
03-21-2007, 06:50 AM
I didn't know that they could do this. I feel stupid. How could she hurt an american TA.Oh Well ,lots of other sites. I guess I'll be next.

Scratch42
03-21-2007, 06:54 AM
It's all about who you know and who will protect you!

j

Belle1997
03-21-2007, 07:23 AM
Well I just changed my post on where to book. Because I do not want to get banned. But I do think it is different for Canadians. Some people feel more comfortable using a travel agent in Canada. And I know the first time I used a US based agent my cruise documents and tickets did not arrive in time. Now my agent did work it out so there was no issue. However, I am also not so sure all travel agents would go out of the way to make it right as she did.
It was a problem mailing the box over the border with free gifts.

So mentioning a travel agent in Canada is that really a conflict of interest. I am not sure. We were allowed to mention CAA travel agents has that changed to. Not sure.

tmli
03-21-2007, 08:38 AM
I don't believe we are allowed to mention any TA's even CAA. My understanding is it falls under the solicitation for business infraction....which I assume covers any business not just travel (but that would be more blatant than others). Although it has been happening, I am guessing they are starting to crack down on it.

There are trying to keep a handle on posts that could be considered "unfair" to companies who pay to be advertised on the dis such as limo companies and tour guide mike.

I am not sure which side I fall in this argument but I can see the point of view of the moderators...I also recognize there are different concerns for us as Canadians.

I guess it comes down to we are playing in their backyard and they make the rules...we can choose to play or go elsewhere!

cslittle999
03-21-2007, 08:41 AM
I think the issue is with TA's themselves posting. This drifts close to posting with commercial intent and that is against the rules. I'm sure that once someone notices riu girl's Skyauction thread it will get locked. As to why some phrases are banned. You will have to take it up with WebmasterPete. I'm sure there is a reason in each case (whether or not you consider it a good one is something else entirely).

nosnobunny2006
03-21-2007, 08:42 AM
I'm a member of several discussion boards and only recently became fairly active on the DIS board. When I first started posting, I asked some inane question only to receive a private message pushing a private TA. It was completely unsolicited. I simply deleted it and thought no more of it, but others may have been quite taken aback. Maybe there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that posters aren't aware of. :confused3

Beth

SandraC
03-21-2007, 08:46 AM
What's next......Book Burning?

I can see it now! Burn Birnbaums and Passporters and all Unofficial Guides and while we are at that why not ban any mention of www.disney.ca

Doesn't the USA shout FREEDOM OF SPEECH from the highest?

Sandra

riu girl
03-21-2007, 08:50 AM
I'm sure that once someone notices riu girl's Skyauction thread it will get locked. ).

Can't agree more. I have just requested that old thread to be locked/deleted entirely.

rhiannonwales
03-21-2007, 08:56 AM
Hi Guys.
I'm not a Canadian, but i happen to know about this from the UN board.
On a thread a Canadian poster asked about Canadian TA's. Madonna31's name was PM'ed to the OP by a THIRD PARTY and another TA PM'ed her and told them their name.They were both banned.

Its interesting to say the least.The official line is that PM's will not be moderated, yet, they were punished for something said in a PM. :confused: Poster who asked for info about Canadian TA's has almost no posts :rolleyes1

I'll probably get points for discussing it but i really dont care. It's getting a little Orwellian around here.

Joann
03-21-2007, 09:01 AM
does it really matter? Disney gets the money anyway no matter who you book thru.Travel agents do not get that much in commission anyway And some things are harder here in Canada. She helped me last year in private message only tho. I did not use her as I ended up doing it all on my own but that was my choice with no preasure from her whats so ever.She said if I needed help here is my number feel free to call for anything.

Tuesday, March 20, 2007

Reason Givin for my Ban

After receiving complaints from some DIS members about being solicited by your travel agency thru PMs and after reviewing you past posts on the boards promoting yourself, we have decided to remove your posting privileges for the DIS permanently.
DIS Boards Administration

I received the following message when attempting to logon to the DisBoards this morning. My user name is pollioni

You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Can you please explain why I have been to my knowledge I have only had one warning a fixed that as soon as I was made aware of it.

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Just an FYI I only PM'd one person (whom I believe is a plant) ever for solicitation. Unless the Admins were watching who PM the person who posted this message.

Why are they not banned. Are they not soliciting



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